For clarification sake it is worth pointing out that Prior to Keir Starmer’s intervention as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) in the Blair Government , several systemic obstacles hindered the prosecution of child grooming and sexual exploitation cases in the UK. These included:
1. Victim Credibility and Misconceptions
• Victims of grooming were often from vulnerable backgrounds and might have had histories of substance abuse, truancy, or criminal behavior. These factors led to their credibility being unfairly questioned in court.
• Authorities often viewed victims as “troublesome” or “complicit” in their exploitation, rather than recognizing them as victims of coercion and abuse.
2. Misunderstanding of Grooming Patterns
• Law enforcement and prosecutors lacked a comprehensive understanding of grooming networks and their methods, leading to failures in identifying and addressing patterns of abuse.
• Cases were often treated as isolated incidents rather than part of coordinated, systematic exploitation.
3. Inadequate Training
• Police officers, prosecutors, and other professionals lacked specialized training to identify and handle grooming cases effectively.
• They were often unable to elicit detailed testimonies from traumatized victims or to understand the manipulative tactics used by perpetrators.
4. Fear of Cultural Sensitivities
• In some cases, authorities hesitated to act due to concerns about appearing culturally insensitive, as grooming gangs in high-profile cases often involved perpetrators from specific ethnic communities.
• This led to accusations of institutional complacency and avoidance.
5. Evidence Collection Challenges
• Securing evidence in grooming cases was complex, as they often relied heavily on victim testimony. Victims were frequently too intimidated, manipulated, or ashamed to testify.
• Prosecutions struggled to build cases based on circumstantial evidence, digital records, or patterns of behavior without direct victim cooperation.
6. Lack of Victim Support
• Insufficient resources were available to provide psychological and legal support to victims, leaving them ill-prepared to navigate the justice system.
• Fear of retaliation or stigma further discouraged victims from coming forward.
Starmer’s Response
As DPP, Keir Starmer worked to address these issues through:
• Revising CPS guidelines to focus on patterns of abuse and reduce reliance solely on victim credibility.
• Providing training for police and prosecutors to improve their understanding of grooming dynamics.
• Encouraging a victim-centered approach, including better support systems for survivors.
• Promoting coordinated efforts to investigate grooming networks as organized crime.
These changes led to significant improvements in the handling and prosecution of grooming cases and an increase in successful prosecutions. Of course so very much more needs to be done and Telford’s magnificent soul wrenching work over decades has to bear fruit in the targeted local enquiries now underway. In these Telford’s assertion that the crossover of religious cultural and racial conceptions and misconceptions must be addressed. Elon Musk’s personal attack on Starmer while it has brought the issue into the media limelight again is entirely unjustified given the historical facts.
They left out that those rapist were muslims for fear of being labelled Islamfobia. Some moron who pretend they are against it justify it with whataboutism which is common among these people.
How different is this to what occurs in t US to the 0ver 20,000,000 long term drug users, (Fentanyl, Opiates, Heroin, Cocaine, Ice and the myriad of sythetic drugs) hooked on drugs the Ronald Reagan administration smuggled into the US from Coloumbia and Mexico to fund their illegal wars in Latin America and the Middle East? Have we forgotten the Iran Contra Affair?
No one is condoning, the pimping and trafficking into prostitution vulnerable young men and women anywhere. But consider:
Many of the men and women the victims of these drugs in the US are pimped to the public by Italian, Mexican and Columbian gangs referred to as the Mafia in the USA. These vice crimes are carried out right under the noses of US law enforcement agencies.
This is what Britain did to China when it opiated millions of Chinese people using opium and heroin shipped out of India by the infamous Jewish families of David Sassoon and Parsees of Mumbai to whom the Britished licensed and franchised these operations. The Hindus and Muslims would refuse to participate in this enterprise as the British did not trust them.
The treatment of Pakistanis and Indians in England from the early 1960 when they began to arrive there was horrible. Their treatment at the hands of the British was worse than what it was in Apartheid South Africa. And the police and courts ignored the ill treatment of these people.
Why are we shocked that such a thing could happen in Britain? "Monkey see monkey do".
Britain sent more prostitutes into the Gulf states of the Middle East as "secretaries" and PA's or au pairs than any other European nation.
Britain is paying for its sins the world over. Lets not forget what Britain did to women of other countries before chasing "Pakistani" men. It left 30,000,000 Anglo Indians (created out of rape statutory and aggravated leaving them at the mercy of the hounds of Hindu nationalism and Muslim extremism in Pakistan).
They preach feminism and anti gender discrimination. Yet the benefits of such gospels are for mainly middle class privileged white and some non white acolytes of this political drivel.
"Remove first the beam in your eye before you seek to remove the spe from our brothers eye". Charity begins at home.
I commented on a Substack that stated within it “13% are against life sentences for grooming gangs”. My reply “check the 13% servers”.
I received a reply from someone who called themselves “Amir Khan” who said “whites are 100% dog f***ers, 100% corpse f***ers”. This person then went on to say I was racist for saying “I’d have to follow your homeland customs and laws”. It’s all in my feed.
We clearly have issues in integration, that needs tackled asap! But aside from that, ANYONE harming children should be dealt with using the full extent of the law, laws aren’t harsh enough? Change the laws!!!!
For clarification sake it is worth pointing out that Prior to Keir Starmer’s intervention as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) in the Blair Government , several systemic obstacles hindered the prosecution of child grooming and sexual exploitation cases in the UK. These included:
1. Victim Credibility and Misconceptions
• Victims of grooming were often from vulnerable backgrounds and might have had histories of substance abuse, truancy, or criminal behavior. These factors led to their credibility being unfairly questioned in court.
• Authorities often viewed victims as “troublesome” or “complicit” in their exploitation, rather than recognizing them as victims of coercion and abuse.
2. Misunderstanding of Grooming Patterns
• Law enforcement and prosecutors lacked a comprehensive understanding of grooming networks and their methods, leading to failures in identifying and addressing patterns of abuse.
• Cases were often treated as isolated incidents rather than part of coordinated, systematic exploitation.
3. Inadequate Training
• Police officers, prosecutors, and other professionals lacked specialized training to identify and handle grooming cases effectively.
• They were often unable to elicit detailed testimonies from traumatized victims or to understand the manipulative tactics used by perpetrators.
4. Fear of Cultural Sensitivities
• In some cases, authorities hesitated to act due to concerns about appearing culturally insensitive, as grooming gangs in high-profile cases often involved perpetrators from specific ethnic communities.
• This led to accusations of institutional complacency and avoidance.
5. Evidence Collection Challenges
• Securing evidence in grooming cases was complex, as they often relied heavily on victim testimony. Victims were frequently too intimidated, manipulated, or ashamed to testify.
• Prosecutions struggled to build cases based on circumstantial evidence, digital records, or patterns of behavior without direct victim cooperation.
6. Lack of Victim Support
• Insufficient resources were available to provide psychological and legal support to victims, leaving them ill-prepared to navigate the justice system.
• Fear of retaliation or stigma further discouraged victims from coming forward.
Starmer’s Response
As DPP, Keir Starmer worked to address these issues through:
• Revising CPS guidelines to focus on patterns of abuse and reduce reliance solely on victim credibility.
• Providing training for police and prosecutors to improve their understanding of grooming dynamics.
• Encouraging a victim-centered approach, including better support systems for survivors.
• Promoting coordinated efforts to investigate grooming networks as organized crime.
These changes led to significant improvements in the handling and prosecution of grooming cases and an increase in successful prosecutions. Of course so very much more needs to be done and Telford’s magnificent soul wrenching work over decades has to bear fruit in the targeted local enquiries now underway. In these Telford’s assertion that the crossover of religious cultural and racial conceptions and misconceptions must be addressed. Elon Musk’s personal attack on Starmer while it has brought the issue into the media limelight again is entirely unjustified given the historical facts.
They left out that those rapist were muslims for fear of being labelled Islamfobia. Some moron who pretend they are against it justify it with whataboutism which is common among these people.
How different is this to what occurs in t US to the 0ver 20,000,000 long term drug users, (Fentanyl, Opiates, Heroin, Cocaine, Ice and the myriad of sythetic drugs) hooked on drugs the Ronald Reagan administration smuggled into the US from Coloumbia and Mexico to fund their illegal wars in Latin America and the Middle East? Have we forgotten the Iran Contra Affair?
No one is condoning, the pimping and trafficking into prostitution vulnerable young men and women anywhere. But consider:
Many of the men and women the victims of these drugs in the US are pimped to the public by Italian, Mexican and Columbian gangs referred to as the Mafia in the USA. These vice crimes are carried out right under the noses of US law enforcement agencies.
This is what Britain did to China when it opiated millions of Chinese people using opium and heroin shipped out of India by the infamous Jewish families of David Sassoon and Parsees of Mumbai to whom the Britished licensed and franchised these operations. The Hindus and Muslims would refuse to participate in this enterprise as the British did not trust them.
The treatment of Pakistanis and Indians in England from the early 1960 when they began to arrive there was horrible. Their treatment at the hands of the British was worse than what it was in Apartheid South Africa. And the police and courts ignored the ill treatment of these people.
Why are we shocked that such a thing could happen in Britain? "Monkey see monkey do".
Britain sent more prostitutes into the Gulf states of the Middle East as "secretaries" and PA's or au pairs than any other European nation.
Britain is paying for its sins the world over. Lets not forget what Britain did to women of other countries before chasing "Pakistani" men. It left 30,000,000 Anglo Indians (created out of rape statutory and aggravated leaving them at the mercy of the hounds of Hindu nationalism and Muslim extremism in Pakistan).
They preach feminism and anti gender discrimination. Yet the benefits of such gospels are for mainly middle class privileged white and some non white acolytes of this political drivel.
"Remove first the beam in your eye before you seek to remove the spe from our brothers eye". Charity begins at home.
I commented on a Substack that stated within it “13% are against life sentences for grooming gangs”. My reply “check the 13% servers”.
I received a reply from someone who called themselves “Amir Khan” who said “whites are 100% dog f***ers, 100% corpse f***ers”. This person then went on to say I was racist for saying “I’d have to follow your homeland customs and laws”. It’s all in my feed.
We clearly have issues in integration, that needs tackled asap! But aside from that, ANYONE harming children should be dealt with using the full extent of the law, laws aren’t harsh enough? Change the laws!!!!